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The Re-Birth of Su-Zaku

Thu Mar 20, 2008, 8:18 PM
I'm returning to drawing vore. Sorry for being so melodramatic before; but I needed it.

I've found that when I'm struggling with something, the best thing to do is share it with as many people as I can; 'cause I'm a little slow and the more viewpoints I can get on something, the better. So I'll share with you where I stand right now on vore and it's place in God's plan.

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I'm a little socially maladjusted so I tend to say whatever is on my mind and share experiences that may be offensive to other people. Not to mention I rant and rave like a lunatic once I get going, so... I suggest you don't sit down to read this unless you got some serious time. <.<
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Someone once told me "You'll be hard pressed finding any scriptural basis to to give it up. In fact you'll find none, however you will find information alluding to the fact that things of perverse nature are sinful to begin with. So can vore even be considered perverse? I don't see it that way,"

Indeed, the Bible never mentions vore specifically, but it's the portions that pertain to lust that I scrutinize closely. As you probably well know, Jesus interprets the Old Testament for the Jews in Matthew 5:28 (NIV) "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

Some people take this literally and believe that even to be sexually attracted to a woman in passing is a sin. I think they're missing the point. My eldest sister studies Greek and Hebrew and tells me that the NIV does a poor job of translating this passage and that a more accurate way to say it would be "Anyone who looks at a woman IN ORDER to lust after her commits adultery with her in his heart." So Jesus is NOT condemning the unintentional lusts of my wandering eyes. I mean, how would the human species propagate itself if not for the attraction between male and female?

I believe it especially foolish to take that passage literally because that is exactly what Jesus is telling them not to do. He establishes that instead of the physical act of sex, it is rather the devotion of our hearts that is important.
I had to learn this one the hard way. It's a long story, but essentially I was working down in the Philippines where prostitution is rampant. My peers are not Christian and frequent the whore-houses and expected me to do the same. Because our outfit relies on complete trust between one another I went out with two goals in mind: Sex with a woman I don't intend to marry is wrong and I am just as much a sinner as any whore I meet.
I achieved both of these goals, I'm still a virgin today, but I fell in love with a working girl down there. I shared as much of my life with her as I could in the short time I was there and she wanted to spend the rest of hers with me. Unfortunately, there are a lot of reasons why it wouldn't work out, so I ended up leaving her broken-hearted.
Now if I do ever do get married, part of my heart is still devoted to this girl I met in the Philippines. How sad is that? I will never be owned entirely by one woman unless it's that one girl I met in Angeles City.
That is the perversion of the heart that Jesus speaks of; a distortion of God's intent: one man and one woman. (Matthew 19:4-6)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that everyone should avoid kissing and getting close to anyone else until they're sure that she's/he's the only one for them (Mainly because I think both are impossible... >.>; ) but it's not perfect like God wants for us.


So what does any of this have to do with vore? To me, vore is a great many things. Not the least of which a release of pent up sexual tensions. Like I said before, I'm still a virgin, so I've gotta do something about the pressure that builds or it'll eventually cause me to do something I'll regret.

I don't think I'll ever will overcome my innate sexual drive; I will always see some women in a lustful fashion. And there is nothing wrong with that; God made me that way. However, to give in to nature and start actively looking for sexual gratification from any and every girl is wrong.

Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 7:9 "But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion." saying that devotion to God should be foremost in your mind, but if you deny yourself "for God" to the point that your passions consume you, you've achieved nothing!



So then; I believe we shouldn't attach ourselves to people whom we don't intend to devote ourselves entirely and allowing passion to build up within us is unhealthy.



In this sense, we may be better off than "normal" people thanks to vore. Let me first admit that I'm not a true furry; I find human women more attractive that I do furry women.
Before I withdrew from vore, I began looking up human porn so that I could use the pictures as references. Unfortunately, I'm a porn addict who didn't know it then. Before I knew it, I was spending all of my time locked in my room downloading as much of it as I could get, sacrificing sleep, and becoming a miserable person.
Thankfully someone called me out on it in Bible study and I realized that I had a problem, so I gave it up. That's when I quit vore as well, because I just needed a clean break from it all. From everything.

But I quickly learned the problem of "burning with passion" that follows a complete break. What I've been able to do is limit myself to stories of vore to keep myself healthy and it prevents me from falling back into my porn addiction.

You might say that vore is a saving grace from God for me.

I'm not saying that all porn is evil, but it's too strong for me. Just like wine; the VAST majority of people can drink casually, a select few become alcoholics and it destroys their lives.
Vore may be the one toned-down version of porn that I actually can handle. I'm not entirely sure and I'm a little apprehensive about going back to it. Especially because there is another danger of misuse of erotic materials.

Let's say that I do get married and I have to make another trip down to the Philippines, an area without telephones or internet. I bring with me some erotic drawings that I use to masturbate. This prevents me from burning with passion and being tempted to cheat on my wife with any of the girls there. However, if I become attached to one character in my erotic drawings, my wife might get jealous if she knew. My wife should not have to compete with ANYTHING for my love, fictional or non-fictional. (Well, we should both love God first but that gets complicated because to love God we have to love one another etc. etc.)


In conclusion I've prepared three points to remember:
1. The devotion of your heart is what counts.
2. It's better to seek release than to burn with passion.
3. Using some kinda stimulant to find sexual release is health so long as that's all your seeking from it.

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So... yeah. That's where I stand. But I'm no priest and I CERTAINLY don't claim to know that I'm right. If you have something you disagree with, PLEASE enlighten me! Like I said before, I'm kinda slow so I really appreciate other people helping me sort things out. It took quite a few slaps in the face before I developed my ideas to this point and I probably need a good many more yet.
Also, everyone is different and my struggles will be different than yours, so take it with a grain of salt and if it doesn't apply to you, toss it.

-Lucky

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:iconfoxby:
For me, I (luckily) tend to fall in love with a girl's characters in the process of falling in love with the girl... so I win on so many accounts. 8D

...Then I get dumped. D: But her characters are still interested... but they're kinda whores. 8D;;

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:iconviperxvii:
I admire your devotion towards the signs of right and wrong, as well as the path you've decided to take. Personally, I tend to follow the general qualities and basic practices of morality in the religion, though the bible itself I don't stick strictly to. (Due to several reasons, including the mistranslations, the supposedly abused translations from when the bible's translation was in the hands of the corrupt monarchy, the various lost pages of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and a general belief in the personalization of religion...I mean, it's supposed to be our most intimate thing, so I see no reason to submit to another's ideals unless ya find them suiting) >.> that and the old testament mostly only succeeds at makin me feel unpleasent.

:: cough :: but yea, do as you will as so far as you can control it, personal discipline before growth and all that.

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:icongelus:
As I've said before, I am just glad that you managed to work it out in such a way as to be able to be decided about it. I didnt care what the decision would be, because I care about you as a person, you're almost like a little bro' to me in certain aspects.
:iconimragweed:
I'm not going to go into the religious aspect of this journal because that would start an ongoing, unralted conversation, primarily on my part, but I will say this: I think it's fabulous that you stuck by your beliefs in the beginning of this whole issue, when you decided to 'quit', so to speak. But really, I think it's utterly amazing that you didn't just take the first bit of information you saw, follow it blindly and ignore any other sources or ideas. I mean, really, anyone can follow what their beliefs tell them to do, but not many will look past the initial interpretation. Anyway, I'm going to shut up before this post gets to be insanely long. Congradulations on finding a balance.

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Much love, the liberalistic, tree-huggin' hippie :heart:
:iconsupernautacus:
LORD Yeshua is ALWAYS on the throne, and prayer changes reality ^_-

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:iconvoredoodler:
I'm a Christian too, and I know where you're coming from with stuff about addiction and misuse. Not that it's happened to me, per se, but I've seen it. Moderation is always best.

I'm not a person for speeches, so that's it for me. Good luck in life!

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:iconsaber-th:
I'm totally agree with the vore thingy, as in that it shouldn't be an obsession :3 even if it is my main theme I...don't feel excited when drawing it, because I actually have fun drawing it X3 as long as it doesn't influence my life (especially work and/or school and relationships with friends and family) I should be alright, plus it kind of keeps me healthy X3
:iconmjnseifer:
I'm gald to see your back, as I am a fan of you're drawings. Incidently, I'm really enjoying your NPJ series. I keep meaning to reviewing it propperly.

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:icon666thheretic:
That was the single most in-depth and spiritual analysis about fetishes I've ever read. Bravo.

(Note: I know I sound kind of sarcastic, but I meant that literally).

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